Learn about expressing ownership and also hear about the Olympics in Brazil
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| DIALOGUE |
| Jake: Sabe, faz dias que estou tentando comprar ingressos para as Olimpíadas mas não consigo achar sites legítimos. |
| Sara: Bem, você foi para o site oficial das Olimpíadas no Rio? |
| Jake: Nem consigo achar! Você sabe onde é? |
| Sara: Acho que é www.olimpiadasrio.com.br. |
| English Host: Let’s hear the conversation one time slowly. |
| Jake: Sabe, faz dias que estou tentando comprar ingressos para as Olimpíadas mas não consigo achar sites legítimos. |
| Sara: Bem, você foi para o site oficial das Olimpíadas no Rio? |
| Jake: Nem consigo achar! Você sabe onde é? |
| Sara: Acho que é www.olimpiadasrio.com.br. |
| English Host: Now let’s hear it with the English translation. |
| Jake: Sabe, faz dias que estou tentando comprar ingressos para as Olimpíadas mas não consigo achar sites legítimos. |
| Braden: You know, I've been trying for days to buy tickets for the Olympics, but I can't find legitimate sites. |
| Sara: Bem, você foi para o site oficial das Olimpíadas no Rio? |
| Braden: Well, did you go to the official Rio Olympic site? |
| Jake: Nem consigo achar! Você sabe onde é? |
| Braden: I can't even find that! Do you know where it is? |
| Sara: Acho que é www.olimpiadasrio.com.br. |
| Braden: I think it's www.olimpiadasrio.com.br. |
| POST CONVERSATION BANTER |
| Braden: So, we wanted to talk a little bit about Olimpíadas |
| Sandra-: The Olympics (or Olimpíadas in Portuguese) have their origin in ancient Greece. |
| Braden: What takes place today however is very different from the original games that took place in Athens. |
| Sandra-: In August of 2016, Rio de Janeiro will host the Summer Olympics. This'll be the first time the Olympic Games will be hosted in South America. |
| Braden: The opening and closing ceremonies are planned to take place in the Maracanã stadium. |
| Sandra-: Most of the events will happen in the Barra da Tijuca region. |
| Braden: Starting with the Summer Olympics, rugby and golf will be included totaling 28 sports on the program. |
| Sandra-: Let's take a look at the vocabulary. |
| VOCAB LIST |
| Braden: Let's take a look at the vocabulary for this lesson. |
| : The first word we shall see is: |
| Sandra: sabe [natural native speed] |
| Braden: he/she/it knows |
| Sandra: sabe [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: sabe [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: dias [natural native speed] |
| Braden: days |
| Sandra: dias [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: dias [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: comprar [natural native speed] |
| Braden: to buy |
| Sandra: comprar [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: comprar [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: ingressos [natural native speed] |
| Braden: tickets |
| Sandra: ingressos [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: ingressos [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: olimpíadas [natural native speed] |
| Braden: Olympics |
| Sandra: olimpíadas [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: olimpíadas [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: sites [natural native speed] |
| Braden: websites |
| Sandra: sites [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: sites [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: legítimos [natural native speed] |
| Braden: legitimate |
| Sandra: legítimos [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: legítimos [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: oficial [natural native speed] |
| Braden: official |
| Sandra: oficial [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: oficial [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: consigo [natural native speed] |
| Braden: I am able to |
| Sandra: consigo [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: consigo [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: achar [natural native speed] |
| Braden: to find |
| Sandra: achar [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: achar [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: onde [natural native speed] |
| Braden: where |
| Sandra: onde [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: onde [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: nem [natural native speed] |
| Braden: nor, the opposite of or |
| Sandra: nem [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: nem [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: bem [natural native speed] |
| Braden: well |
| Sandra: bem [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: bem [natural native speed] |
| : Next: |
| Sandra: você [natural native speed] |
| Braden: you |
| Sandra: você [slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Sandra: você [natural native speed] |
| VOCAB AND PHRASE USAGE |
| Braden: Let's have a closer look at the usuage for some of the words and phrases from this lesson. |
| Sandra-: In the dialogue, we heard the phrase nem consigo achar |
| Braden: The literal translation is “No able to find” |
| Sandra-: But it means, “I can’t even find it.” Sometimes this phrase is shortened to just “nem consigo,” to mean “I can’t even (do it).” |
| Braden: In the dialog, Sarah asked Jake |
| Sandra-: Você foi para o site oficial das olimpíadas no Rio? which translates to, “Well, did you go to the official Rio olympic site? |
| “ |
| Braden: to which Jake responded, “Nem consigo achar!” which translates to, “ I can’t even find.” |
| Braden: Could you break this down? |
| Sandra-: (break down) |
| Braden: So what's our next phrase? |
| Sandra-: In the dialogue, we heard the phrase faz dias |
| Braden: The literal translation is “makes days” but it means, “It has been days” |
| Sandra-: This phrase is a variation on the phrase, “faz tempo” which we learned in lesson 21. |
| Baden: You could also easily exchange the word dias for almost any time period. For example, if it’s been several years since you’ve visited a particular place, you could say |
| Sandra-: Faz anos que não venho aqui. |
| Braden: which translates to, “It’s been years since I’ve come here.” Or if you’ve been waiting for someone for a long time, something that happens a lot in Brazil, you could say |
| Sandra-: Faz horas que estou te esperando.” |
| Braden: Which translates to, “It’s been hours that I’ve been waiting for you.” Or in more normal English, “I’ve been waiting for you for hours.” |
| Braden: Could you break this down? |
| Sandra-: (break down) |
| Braden: Let's move on to the focus of this lesson. |
Lesson focus |
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| Braden: So Sandra-, what's the focus of this lesson? |
| Sandra-: The focus of this lesson is expressing ownership in Portuguese |
| Braden: In the dialogue, we heard the phrase |
| Sandra-: Bem você foi para o site oficial das olipmíadas no Rio? |
| Braden: Which we translated as "Well, did you go to the official Rio olympic site?" |
| Sandra-: You'll hear and use de every day so start things off we’ll take a look at the pronunciation then move on to the uses of de to show possession. |
| Braden: Pronunciation |
| Sandra-: Since de is so frequently used, it has several possible pronunciations depending on the dialect. We could spend an entire series on just this one word but to avoid unnecessary speculation, we'll focus on the three most common pronunciations. |
| Braden: 1) people from the deep south or Sul of Brazil say de (de). this is probably because of strong Spanish influence as every state in the south of Brazil orders a Spanish-speaking country. |
| Sandra-: Eu sou de Curitiba. |
| Braden: "I am from Curitiba." 2) people from the middle of the country say de, as in the G. |
| Sandra-: Eu sou de Brasília. |
| Braden: "I'm from Brasília." 3) people from the north and northeast of Brazil say de (di). |
| Sandra-: Eu sou de Recife. |
| Braden: "I'm from Recife." Okay so moving on, the preposition de is one of the main grammatical structures for expressing ownership and possession in Portuguese. |
| Sandra-: Portuguese does not use an apostrophe -s to show possession, as in "John's shoes." The correct way to express this idea is to restructure the sentence and say |
| Braden "the shoes of John." |
| Sandra-: "os calçados do João." Let's look at the construction of these phrases with a little bit more detail. The conversion of an English phrase showing possession occurs in two steps. |
| Braden: First, reword the phrase to follow this pattern |
| Sandra-: Second, translate each word into Portuguese following this pattern - |
| Braden: Article*+noun+de+Article*+owner. So, "The house of the man" becomes |
| Sandra-: "a casa do homem". |
| Braden: In our example sentence, a contraction occurred. Anytime de is followed by the articles o(s) or a(s) it will form a contraction. |
| Sandra-: When using de to show ownership, these kinds of contractions will happen frequently because all nouns in Portuguese must be preceded by an article, even if the same does not happen in English. For example, |
| Braden: "John's mother" becomes “the mother of John” Now translate “the mother of John” to Portuguese to get |
| Sandra-: "a mãe de o João" or "a mãe do João." |
| Braden: Notice how John has an article before his name in Portuguese but not in the equivalent phrase in English. |
| Sandra-: Lets review this lesson. |
| Braden: Expressing ownership in Portuguese is a daily task. You need to do it when you describe your job, your life, your family, your trip, your hotel, etc. |
| Sandra-: To do this properly, you need to use the preposition de. De is a very important word in Portuguese. It usually translates to "of" or "from" in English but, when talking about ownership, it usually translates as an apostrophe. |
| Braden: In this lesson we learned the pronunciation of the preposition de and the structure for expressing ownership using de. |
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Hello Jaimie,
That's a great experience! :)
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Obrigada Cristiane! Eu conheço pessoas de diferentes países todos os dias. É como viajar pelo mundo sem sair de casa. Eu tenho muitos estudantes brasileiros. Por isso eu estou aprendendo português.
Olá Jaimie,
That's a very interesting job!👍
Feel free to let us know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Cristiane
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Eu sou professora de ingles. Eu trabalho para uma empresa virtual. Eu ensino aulas particulares e em grupo usando uma sala de aula virtual. Eu gosto muito do meu trabalho.
Hello Jason,
Thanks for posting.
As you'll need more data about articles, please find below the links for two classes that give more information about them and their usage. In case you have further doubts, please let us know :wink:
https://www.portuguesepod101.com/2011/03/29/absolute-beginner-19-brazilians-striking-problem/
https://www.portuguesepod101.com/2012/06/11/beginner-24-no-dinner-dates-in-brazil/
Cristiane
Team Portuguesepod101.com
Adding to Larry's comment and Paloma's response regarding the usage of articles before nouns, I have additional questions about when it is appropriate to use them.
In the example Paloma gave (comprar ingressos - buy tickets vs comprar os ingressos - buy the tickets), the difference is more intuitive, since the same rule applies in English.
However, in other less intuitive instances such as "os calçados do João," the equivalent translation would not make sense in English. In English, the naming of the individual replaces the need for an article to identify him. Does the same not hold in Portuguese?
Could you please explain at length the rules for the usage of articles, or refer me to your lesson materials that covers this? Thank you :)
Oi Larry,
All nouns in Portuguese have a gender, feminine or masculine. By adding the article, you define the noun, making it more specific.
For example:
comprar ingressos - buy tickets
comprar os ingressos - buy the tickets
In Portuguese, usually the usage of the article is necessary, but it can be ommited sometimes, or used to change meanings, as in the example above.
I hope it helps. Let me know if you have further questions.
Paloma
Team PortuguesePod101.com
In this lesson, as well as one other some time ago, it is stated that all nouns in portuguese must be proceeded by an article. However, there are many examples of nouns in many of these lessons in which there is no article before the noun. Could you please clarify. Thank you.
Oi Rommel,
Thanks for letting us know the issue! And sorry for the typo :flushed:
We've fixed it already.
Let us know if you have any questions.
Paloma
Team PortuguesePod101.com
Hi Team,
I would like to inform the error I've seen on the PDF file. I've seen the word "orders" instead of the word "borders"